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their anger about it they attacked the red cross. the following month the united states announced that u.s. drone strike had killed a libyan who was the second ranking guy in al qaeda central. a guy who went by the moniker al libi which means the libyan. the same group in benghazi responded immediately within 24 hours. they launched another attack that they filmed al qaeda-style, and they ultimately claimed credit for it. this time their target was the u.s. consulate in benghazi, the same u.s. consulate where christopher stevens was killed two nights ago. they hit the consulate with an ied, turned the attack into an al qaeda-style video type of propaganda. the same group hit a british envoy in benghazi with a car bomb. it had the hallmarks of al qaeda inspiration or al qaeda training. they filmed the incident, dropped leaflets. they tried to take as much credit as possible. then on the morning of september 11th, this week, al qaeda central put out a video calling for attacks to avenge that same killing of al libi the group in benghazi had avenged before when it was first announced he was
. >>> a world on the brink. >> would you consider the current egyptian regime an ally to the united states? >> i don't know if we would consider them an ally, but we don't consider them an enemy. >> violence in response to a speech is not acceptable. >> we will bring their killers who justice. >> seen as a party on the brink. >> today romney is the only guy looking presidential. >> george bush's a rock, that's how you install a democracy in the middle east. >> the way you voiced it, it was pretty much what mitt romney said yesterday. >> i think this president is a winner. >> the first response to the united states must be outrage. >> we begin this afternoon with the president and secretary of state both working to address the ongoing crisis in libya, even as the nation continues to mourn the loss of ambassador stevens and three other senior members of the diplomatic staff. the has spoken to the leaders of both libya and egypt, inviting them to step up security while delivering marines and vessels to the region. these demonstrations are spreading to iran, bangladesh, so earlier today secretary of
mohammed as blas fa mouse. we don't know if this person is base ed based in the united states and that's to whom the video is attributed as why the attacks were made on american properties abroad. we don't know if there were more complex reasons. this is not the first time that perceived criticism of islam has been reacted to violently in the muslim world. a florida pastor promoted what he was calling "burn a koran day." that spurred days of protests in afghanistan killing nine people there. in 2005 it was cartoons depict depicting the prophet mohammed. and u.s. service members accidentally burned copies of the koran in order to dispose of them. it sparked riots throughout afghanistan killing 30 people overall. but again, breaking news at this hour. a day of violent protests in libya and egypt. the american consulate and the american embassy in egypt. and reports still unconfirmed at this time that one american may have been killed at that consulate attack. this is an evolving story. we're still trying to get confirmation, but we'll update you as we learn more. that's tonight's breakin
in mourning as the u.s. diplomatic corps and, indeed, entire nation reels from an attack on the united states consulate in libya with four americans killed, including ambassador christopher stevens. the president visited the state department earlier today signing a book of condolence in honor of ambassador stevens. flags have been ordered at half-staff at white house and all public buildings for five days to honor the deceased. with 55 days until election, violence in libya and cairo has also become a flash point in the presidential campaign. providing a perfect case study in how these candidates respond to crisis. the president spoke in the rose garden this morning, alongside secretary of state hillary clinton. >> as americans, let us never, ever forget that our freedom is only sustained because our people who are willing to fight for it, to stand up for it, and in some cases lay down their lives for it. today we mourn for more americans who represent the very best of the yat of america. we will not waiver in our commitment to see justice is done for this terrible act. make no mistake, justi
of the united states would go behind closed doors and declare to a group of wealthy donors that half the american people view themselves as victims entitled to handouts and are unwilling to take personal responsibility for their own lives. it's hard to serve as president for all americans when i have disdainfully written off half of the nation. that's exactly what mitt romney has done here with this statement behind closed doors. for months on this program, i have asked, will the real mitt romney stand up? we saw the real mitt romney. he did behind closed doors. he doesn't give a damn about those who needs assistance in this country and that we are a society, we are a country of compassion. we want to help people who are downtrodden. we want to help those who were dealt a tough deck of cards, whether it be in the economy, or whether it be health care, as of no fault of their own, or circumstances put on families that are totally out of their control. mitt romney wants to do away with those. he views those people as basically road kill. he's not going to communicate to them and he's n
's on a knife edge between the people who helped elect him and the government, the united states who supports him. as soon as obama put a little bit of pressure on him, he realized that he's no longer a member of the muslim brotherhood. he's responsible for an entire nation. that 180 where he immediately began condemning the violence, talking ability, he condemned the movie as well. >> he's not going to endorse the movie. >> well, condemned the violence and call for peace and paeacefu protest. it's what we want to see. >> you are right to a certain extent. i was visiting in egypt. it's fascinating to see that. i think it's like obama in the beginning. i don't want to compare. he's not fully the president of egypt. he's still understanding whether he's the muslim leader or because that's why he was hesitant in talking in the beginning. he didn't step in. the interesting thing, if mubarak was in place, he would have rest and brutally suppressed the mobs. used them in the beginning and showed his power to the u.s. what he did, he opened up a little saying this is freedom of speech. >> right. >>
of this debate. ultimately the fault line in the united states is not the fault line between the people receiving federal assistance and those who aren't. what we want to do is get people off those things. that status ought to be transitional. and they ought to ultimately move to the point where they are, if you will, taxpayers or they working full time and so forth. that ought to be the debate, and that's what's missing. again, what's missing i actually think from this campaign is not just optimism, but it's a set of ideas on the economy, on the budget, on our role in the world. you can't -- neither candidate is actually putting forward much in the way -- you say an optimistic agenda. i'd also say a positive agenda and have two candidates who are painly counterpunching and they're refraining from putting forward ideas lest they be attacked. this is a very defensive campaign. so you don't say what tax expenditures you'd get rid of. you don't exactly say how you would curtail entitlements. everybody's playing defensive. but what this shows, but not playing offense, you're still on the defensive. b
as president of the united states. they'd like to hear some specifics. >> well, i can tell them specifically what my policy looks like. i will not raise tacks on middle income folks. i will not lower the share of tacks paid by high-income individuals, and i will make sure that we bring down rates, we limit deductions and exemptions. >> what are we talking about, the mortgage deduction, the charitable deduction? >> the devil is in the details. the angel is in the policy which is creating more jobs. >> right. freedom, check. angels, check. throw in the towel, mr. president. this guy is going to obviously win. let's get right to our panel. in los angeles msnbc contributor matt miller. in minneapolis anna marie cox, correspondent for "the guardian" and in washington msnbc political analyst karen finney. anna, if i might begin with you, in listening to mitt romney's responses this weekend and looking at the diagnosticcle and statistical manual of mental illness he appears to be suffering two forms of delusion, grandiose delusion where the individual has an inflated view of himself and also perscu
, you know, just coming on to the stage with the president of the united states gives you some gravitas right there. and typically in the first debate -- the challenger was declared the winner. so let's just keep in mind that we can't take anything for granted. let's focus on the ground game. we've got 40 days to go. >> you've got a good day one. that's for sure. congresswoman debbie wasserman-schultz with us on "the ed show." thanks so much. answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter @edshow and facebook. we want to know what you think. >>> coming up, mitt romney reveals the real goal of bain capital in a newly discovered video. former labor secretary robert reich has reaction next. and i'll have commentary. >>> and mitt romney says that he will use the debate to fact check the president's ad claims? and tell the truth? we'll have a romney fact check of our own coming up. >>> and george w. bush will pay a visit to the island where mitt romney's money lives. we'll have all the details of bush's move to the cayman islands for a little trip to ta
to win and distance themselves from this guy who is, as i say, plainly not fit to be in the united states senate, given some of his views. but it is possible, as jim vandehei said, it's possible he could win this race. and it's clear that a lot of republicans and the republican establishment now looking at the math are thinking about coming back in. i think the republican senatorial committee is very likely to put money into this race. i think the polls will tighten. as horrific as it will be to many people not just on the left but in the middle of the electorate, i think there's a reasonable chance he could win this race. >> not only do i agree with that, take a look, joe, at what roy blunt did. he is moving up in leadership, and he came out and supported akin yesterday. so that is -- >> the senator from michigan. >> yeah, that's the leading indicator. that tells you that the republican committee is going to go full in, and they see this as their way to regain control, and it's all about regaining control. and i can tell you that some of the very people now supporting him are republicans
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to the united states, who had a list of grievances against america and would wrap themselves this victimhood about how america had been so wrong to them, this president has coddled and appeased. >> for insight, i want to bring in jim frederick, international editor for "time" magazine. the cover story is about the anti-american protests. the agents of outrage. also, shira tchtupplet, also joining us. long time aide for senator john mccain, wrote something in real clear politics. saying in part, quote, the rush by republicans including mitt romney, sarah palin and scores of other conservatives to condemn president obama for policies they claim helped precipitate the attacks is as tortured in its reasoning as it is unseemly in its timing. we just heard from rick santorum there, as well. how has the romney campaign responded to the backlash over his comments? >> well, initially they didn't even blink. they held a press conference, they doubled down on the issue, they didn't see anything wrong with it. and in the following day, you saw some of his senior advisers speak out and further emphasize
's exotic, grew up outside of the united states and yes, by the way, he is black. but this is -- this goes beyond that, because it really is -- i just think there's an edge to this one that we haven't seen. >> dana, you were just saying, that given all the attacks during the convention, the republican convention next week, it's not been of any great benefit to mitt romney. today we learn that the romney and ryan campaign are running robo calls and guess what's in the robo call, the president wants to raid medicare for $716 million and he's going to tax wheelchairs and pacemakers. i mean, if it failed during their convention, why do they keep doing this? >> and i expect next they'll come back again with that jamesville gm plant which has been discredited and that whole line about the simpson-bowles that paul ryan trotted out last week. so, you know, that doesn't seem to be working. you know, when you take something like the jamesville case that's flat wrong, that's one thing. gene does make an important case that welfare argument is more pernicious because it seems designed to divide people
most bipartisan in the united states senate. i was recently named by "washingtonian" magazine as least partisan senator. the key is to do it together truly in a bipartisan manner. we drew a line in the sand collectively and in a bipartisan way. we need to sit down in a room in a bipartisan manner. the only way we're going to get this done is to actually work together in a truly bipartisan manner and i'm the only one in this room right now who's going to be doing that. being the second most bipartisan senator right now, i've been doing it since i got there. >> there isn't even an -- that "r" next to my name, it stands for the "r" that's in bipartisan. i'm no republican, pay no attention to the "r." i abbreviate things from the middle. every senate republican, every republican candidate for the united states senate has a problem in his or her race right now. and the problem in all of those senate races for republican candidate is this man. mitt romney. the republican party's current standard bearer. republican senate candidate george allen of virginia in his debate this afternoon was ask
weather only to find out that the united states senate under democrat control will not even bring a budget plan to the senate floor. people should know the republican led house on the other hand, met its obligations, most significantly, it passed a budget to rescue america from debt crisis. >> alabama senator jeff sessions there. we have each side blaming the other. who do you think really gets the blame here? sn>> he's right the republicans accomplished their objectives because their objective is to rob obama of re-election, like that's what they said their objective is, the stated goal. maybe they haven't quite achieved that stated goal but in terms of what they're trying to do, they've gotten closer than the democrats for sure. the democrats have not been able to do anything because the republicans said that's their goal. it's hard to say staying in session any longer would improve things. this is a horrible meal. do you want seconds? there's one way to look at it, no way congress could get more unpopular. they'd have to spread diseases and kick babies to get more unpopular. i'm sure th
is not a chal llenge that can be contained. that's why the united states will do what we must to prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. >> the president devoted a large portion of his speech to the arab spring and its fallout. just two weeks after the attacks that killed ambassador chris stevens, the president promised even as we will bring the killers to justice, he will not back down from supporting democracy nor from protecting freedom of speech. indeed, the president extended his spirited defense of free expression even to remarks against himself. >> as president of our country and commander in chief of our military, i accept that people are going to call me awful things every day. and i will always defend their right to do so. [ applause ] >> i wonder who he's been talking about there. let's get right to our panel now. in washington dana mill bank, political columnist for "the washington post." in west palm beach, florida, msnbc political analyst professor michael eric dyson who we have persuaded to leave his mojito by the poolside and in washington, political analyst david corn.
for president of the united states would go behind closed doors and declare to a group of wealthy donors that half of the american people view themselves as victims entitled to handouts and are unwilling to take personal responsibility for their lives. it's hard to serve as president for all americans when you've disdainfully written off half the nation." in a late-night news conference, romney responded. >> well, you know, it's not elegantly stated, let me put it that way. i'm speaking off the cuff in response to a question, and i'm sure i could state it more clearly and in a more effective way, but it's a message which i'm going to carry and continue to carry, which is, look, the president's approach is attractive to people who are not paying taxes because, frankly, my discussion about lowering taxes isn't as attractive to them. and therefore, i'm not likely to draw them into my campaign as effectively as those who are in the middle. >> let me britain in anne kornblut for "the washington post" and a politics reporter for roll call. good to see both of you. let me play reaction across t
introducing you to the president of the united states, that's a pretty remarkable message. >> that is. >> that speaks to the american dream and i will say, perhaps, his greatest asset is his little 3-year-old daughter was a super star on the cutaways and become an internet celebrity flipping her hair around. it was draets. >> we're just getting started live from the blackfinn salon in charlotte, north carolina. >> mika does that too. when she's at baseball games and they catch her behind home plate. >> remember when we embarrassed chris. absolutely funny. >> the mayor is going to be here. >> mayor julian castro will be here joining us and bring in white house senior adviser valerie jarrett here to join us. >> all right. >> yes. >> tom brokaw, arianna huffington. up next, jim vandehei with the top stories from the politico playbook. but first, let's send it up to bill karins in new york for a check on the forecast, bill? >> good morning to you, mika. it's a very humid morning for everyone in the eastern half of the country. there's some fog to deal with too. and definitely some rain, e
of the united states. >> i heightened it up. >> if you listen to what he said in florida from that fund-raiser thing, he continually refers to "those people." "those people." that ain't going to fly. >> yeah. >> "those people." >> that was bad. >> like some alien tribe among us who are just lunging for food stamps. nobody wants to be born poor in the united states of america. >> yeah. >> there's a way to do it, but -- >> i can tell you my dad also, again, unemployed for 18 months. i'll guarantee you he didn't like going to the mississippi unemployment office to get a check to keep gas in the car. >> you think people like going to food pantries? >> no. it was humiliating. he did it because he had to do it. but, again, though, i think, though, there is -- i think this is a line of demarcation. and i think it's a good opportunity. i told a good friend of ours in the romney campaign, i said, the tape's not your problem. the libyan press conference, you lost more independent voters with that stupidity than that tape. you could actually use the tape as a positive. >> let's get to massachusett
walked out on the stage of the u.s. congress and -- chamber of the united states house and gave an amazing barn burning state of the union address. his mind was totally on the big stuff. >> right. >> how did he do that? how did it clear his head? >> i suppose that's -- that will be -- a question for the ages. right? compartmentalization or whatever. focus. ability to focus on the things he cares about. the things he can control. and the things that he thinks make a difference. it is what gets him out of bed excited every day. one of the things that struck me when i first met him was his ability to bring people to his ideas and get them excited about the possibility. and i think we will see that at the arena tonight. it is still possible. he still is the man from hoboken and can bring people in, get them excited and fired up and go out do street work. >> let me ask you about the politics. in these two guys get together as secretary clinton and president clinton have been at least formally, the democratic parties united. if he can get the white noncollege people from southwestern
in columbus. >> that's why i'm running for a second term as president of the united states. >> four more years! f four more years! >> hold on a second. hold on a second. i want you to know though because some of you may not have been paying attention at the convention because, you know, you were still thinking about michelle and how good she was. [ cheers and applause ] or maybe you're still talking about president clinton and how he broke it down. [ cheers and applause ] well, i want everybody to be clear, the path i'm offering isn't quick or easy. it's going to take more than a few years to deal with all the challenges that we face. but let me tell you something, when i hear the other side talking about how the nation is in decline, i tell them, you must not be getting out much. because this is america. and we've still got the best workers in the world and the best entrepreneurs in the world and the best scientists and researchers in the world and the best colleges and universities in the world, and there's not a country on earth that wouldn't trade places with us right now. so i'm confident
-on-ones. they all come to the shores of the united states. this is a time where it's easy to meet with some of these folks. there was one comment from an adviser. he said if he meets with one leader, then he's going have to meet with ten and you're like, well, that's the job sometimes. you know, this doesn't seem like a very defensible position, not to have met with one world leader when it came to the united nations. >> well, i don't want to get into the president's schedule and certainly this is a question for my colleagues at the white house, but i do know when you're the president of the united states, you're always talking to world leaders. it's not just one. in just the last day there ee's been a lot of talks with the world leaders. i think that will continue. we've discussed it. i think that these are questions for my colleagues at the white house and we're focused on what we're doing in ohio today. >> all right. speaking of ohio, mitt romney's got a new ad out. i want to play a little clip for and get your reaction to it. >> president obama and i both care about poor and middle klas
by the year. rick scott, i would dare say, is perhaps the most conservative governor in the united states. florida, i understand it's a swing state in presidential election, but it's a swing state when you have, you know, guys running like mitt romney and john mccain and bob dole. a tough conservative wins florida. >> what was the impact of that ad -- i couldn't believe when he picked ryan, the democrats ran an ad of some guy who looked like ryan pushing granny off the edge of a cliff in a wheelchair. it was subtle. >> it was subtle but that doesn't work because marco rubio got elected by promising. the one big debate that he had with charlie crist and the democratic opponent, he talked about raising social security to 70. bob graham, one of the most popular democratic politicians in florida history, always talked about the need of possibly raising the retirement age for social security and medicare. the voters there are a lot smarter than politicians think. so no, it wasn't that good. let's talk some more about ike because, again, i think the guy is slowly evolving into my favorite presi
and saw the president of the united states holding a rally. the obama campaign had booked the same barn on the same date. >> just our luck. that's kind of how -- oh, yeah, figures, the one place which the president also chooses. >> so on the big day, president obama ended his campaign speech with moments to spare before the wedding. the bride rushed into her ceremony and walked down the aisle on time. to extend his apologies for clogging up the parking lot, president obama left behind a wedding gift, a silver tray and a mint julep cup. where he got that, we don't know. >> i used it the first night for sure. love him or hate him, it's a gift from the president. >> unknown fact. along with the football the president of the united states travels with, also travels with a mint julep cup. the newlyweds say they're not democrats, but they admit the cup from the president was by far the coolest wedding gift they received. >>> sam stein, thanks, man, we'll talk to you. >> thanks, guys. >>> up next, senator tom coburn joins the conversation. also, richard wolffe. keep it on "morning joe." does y
the president of the united states in the eye and say, you're wrong, and then stick to it and win the arguments? >> yeah. >> a great line. prime minister thatcher used to say first you win the argument then you win the vote. i think republicans forget that. >> right. >> interesting. >> yes we do. >> speaker gingrich, mr. professor, thank you very much. >> we're looking forward to seeing calista on tuesday. dee dee myers stay with us. coming up more poll numbers from swing states. david gregory and chuck todd will be here to break them down and also eugene robinson joins the conversation. i don't want healthy skin for a day. i want healthy skin for life. [ female announcer ] don't just moisturize, improve the health of your skin with aveeno daily moisturizing lotion. the natural oatmeal formula goes beyond 24-hour moisture. it's clinically proven to improve your skin's health in one day, with significant improvement in 2 weeks. for healthy, beautiful skin that lasts. i found a moisturizer for life. [ female announcer ] aveeno daily moisturizing lotion. also discover daily moisturizing body wash.
to disappoint and mitt romney really next to the president of the united states looks like someone with better ideas is going to fix this, then in the final weeks he could make the sale and win. >> what are those better ideas? you cannot say you have them and not present them, and i think that's what i hear from a lot of people as well who are those undecideds that i still wonder how undecided they are. nefrlgs, michael, i love you because you talk to people all day long on your radio show. what's the most common thing you hear right now, especially related to this specific jobs report after the convention? >> let me say, people seemed underwhelmed by the president's speech last night, tamron. one fellow from boston said it reminds him of the beatles. they had so many hits it reached a point where it was hard to have an extraordinary song because they already had a great catalog. by that he meant that the president has so often knocked it out of the park that the bar was very high for him, and it made it very difficult for him to have an extraordinary night last night. by all accounts it was a
the office of president of the united states would so dismiss all of the people he is sworn to serve if he should be fortunate, which certainly i believe he won't, to succeed in this quest. it is really disheartening to hear him say that. >> congressman, you worked alongside dr. edward zeigler who, of course, developed the highly effective head start program. i had the great privilege of interviewing dr. zeigler. that has been so crucial in helping children in challenging family circumstances, but given mr. romney's contempt for half the population, i guess it's no surprise that his running mate, paul ryan, his running mate's budget would slash head start to pieces. >> it would slash head start. it slashes college education and tuition. it slashes medicaid as well, which also hurts the very seniors also that they claim they're going to protect. this cynical nature of this has had even the bishops joining with the nuns and saying that this is an immoral budget that he has put forward because of how it decimates the poorest amongst us. i mean, dr. zeigler would be amazed by all of this, and
a resume-builder. he would love to be president of the united states. he doesn't want to really give service to the country. he doesn't want to give a contribution to the country. he doesn't want to protect the people. he wants the title, to be president. and that goes down as a part of who and what his resume was all about when he passed this way, as they say, in my church. the fact of the matter is, mitt romney seems not to be in touch with ordinary people who work hard every day, people who earn income. you know, the earned income tax credit, which allows a working family not to pay taxes, is a republican program. >> absolutely. was milton friedman's idea. it was paul ryan's guru who recommended that as an ideal incentive for the working poor. and yet now they treat these people with contempt. >> absolutely. i mean, ronald reagan said it was the best anti-poverty program going when he expanded the program after signed into law by president ford. so these are real good, make work pay kind of programs that romney seemed to be disdainful of. i don't quite understand that except he ma
in across the world, across the united states. and the reality is, the reality is it is time to let teachers teach again. it is time to let them do what they were trained to do rather than let administrators tell them who have never been teaching in their lives. administrators need to take a step back and let teachers have for freewill in the students because we human beings are not products. that's really important to us for advancement and to develop the world. >> man, i'm taking you home with me. luke. >> i'm here with helen to talk about after school programs. >> well, i just wanted to bring out that colleges, like, well-rounded kids, students. and after-school programs will help us be that. so i'm protesting more after-school programs for helping us to stay out of trouble and learn more than what regular school teaches us. >> more funding for after school programs, something we have heard amongst a lot of kids at this wonderful town hall. >> i love it. i love respect for teachers, i love the idea of students making their own way and i also appreciate all the leadership i have seen both
wrong with that. there's a big difference between being investor in chief and president of the united states. this business of getting tough on china, we hear it all over the campaign trail, everybody does it it really comes down to what's in the details. and that i think is where mitt romney has been once again, insufficient. he says he would label china a currency manipulator but at the same time he's against legislation, bipartisan legislation, that would actually go hard against the fact china manages currency to are an advantage with its exports and put our imports at a competitive disadvantage. >> mr. romney scolded the president back in 2009 for defending american tire companies against chinese competition and i'm quoting him, production stifles productivity but he now has the president hasn't been hard enough on china. today the president responded. take a listen. >> when you hear this newfound outrage, you hear these ads promising to get tough on china, it feels a lot like that fox saying, you know we need more secure chicken coops. >> robert i don't w
and defeat her. how many people in the congress of the united states do you think are anti-american? you've already suspected barack obama. is he alone? are there others? how many do you suspect of your colleagues as being anti-american? >> what i would say, what i would say is that the news media should do a penetrating expose and take a look. i wish they would. i wish the american media would take a great look at the views of the people in congress and find out, are they pro-america or anti-america? i think people would be -- would love to see an expose like that. >> well, mr. graves, i hate to admit, i shirked on that response but have not conducted a joe mccarthy-style probe in my small role here of the loyalty of the democratic members of congress. what do you make of having an opponent like that? what would you make hay out of that crazy comment? >> krirchris, i'll tell you, it started on your channel and show, she keeps going. she keeps going. she'ses actually coming after me. she likes to tread on fear and separation. that's her whole mantra. and i think it's getting old. >> okay
the president of the united states in that way. let's even take the idea that we are somehow less safe in the world, this kind of discourse that was coming up from condi rice and john mccain. that felt to me the sort of thing that would be policed out of a democratic convention. you're not allowed to show up and say oh, you know, we're much more vulnerable now. we're much less safe than we once were. >> the eastwood presentation, it spoke to the soft birtherism that's been around all week. that barack obama is not one of ours. he just doesn't get it. and the party took on this role as the carrier of the american dream, the carrier of american exceptionalism as though the rest of us are not. and then to say actually he doesn't get it, and implication presuming lots of democrats don't get it. >> i think we're connecting a lot of dots that shouldn't necessarily be connected. >> okay. >> i think clint eastwood very clearly has a history if you look at this man of being one that is civil to people of all different backgrounds. and you know, i just thought that this was an eccentric speech.
on wednesday or here in the united states. everything could change. that's why it's important that everyone remember that these are just quick snapshots. we use them. it behooves journalists to make sure we don't rely on them too much to start drawing conclusions. >> we do love polls here. it gives us something to talk about. let me ask you this. i have a buddy who contends one of the effects of these polls is people read all that stuff. if you don't read the polls and you deduce, our guy didn't have a shot, i'm not going to bother showing up in november. what type of effect do you think that it potentially has on independent voters? >> that's a great question. i think it's something people get frustrated about with the press, which is as we report on these things, we sometimes are accused of getting in the way of the process. i think if you're down two or three points, it's not a big deal. i've worked on campaigns where you can definitely get past that with most voters. if you start to slip out of the what i would call the aura of reasonability, you're down eight, ten, you get written off.
the president of the united states, you know, supporting marriage equality, a larger majority of the country in favor of it. and you want to understand why the right is concerned about the culture war. they do thing -- and they may be right -- that they're losing the culture war. they're looking at the diversity of the country, they're looking at issues related to marriage, and they see everything at risk and they could be right because the country has gone way beyond it, particularly on marriage. >> because it's generational. it's not just that we're seeing that generational shift of seeing or approving gay marriage but among the minorities who may be more conservative they're also supporting it. i'm going with the party that does so. >> it's starting to move. >> there was a face put to it. there was a point it became political. my mother, my sister, my brother, my cousin. it became a face to someone that loved and wanted to get married. >> and think that was something very effectively done at the convention. sac wall zack walls, the son of two women who are gay marriage and benita veniz. s
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